I Don't Buy this Poll as far as I can throw it!

The Insider Advantage Georgia came out yesterday with a new poll showing Roy Barnes with a whopping 64% in the democratic primary.

Here's the rest:


Barnes, 64 percent

Porter, 8 percent

Baker, 6 percent

Camon, 5 percent

Poythress, 1percent

Mangham, 1 percent

Bolton, 0 percent

No opinion, 15 percent


First of all, Barnes with 64% is very, very hard to believe. One logic to this if it is trure is because he is coming with new ads it seems just about every week.

And how in the hell is David Poythress only garnering 1% of the vote, tied with RANDAL MANGHAM????????? Trailing Carl Camon who's getting 5%??? (Don't get me wrong, I love Carl, but how is this possible)?

Thurbert Baker at 6% & DuBose Porter at 8%?

In regards to Porter, who I also like, he's was so giddy about this poll that he sent out this press release:

Have you heard the news?

The latest poll shows that I am now #2 in the Democratic Primary race for Governor, moving ahead of Attorney General Thurbert Baker.

Please contribute today to help us continue this momentum.

REALLY??? Come on DuBose, this is nothing to be bragging about!

Gen. Poythress is the only democrat besides Barnes that is running an ad & he's only getting 1%

I lobe the insider Advantage & I hold them in high regard, but I'll take this poll with a grain of salt. They ought to know better that to release a ridiculous poll like this.

Dailykos Poll on Ga-Senate Race

I found this on the Dailykos Website

Johnny Isakson (R) 50%

Thurbert Baker (D) 34%

Johnny Isakson (R) 53%

Michael Thurmond (D) 26%

Here's their analysis:

Since no first-tier Democrats have actually taken the plunge against Isakson, we tested one statewide official who is not ensconced in the gubernatorial race (Labor Commissioner Michael Thurmond), and we tested the possibility of Baker seeing the writing on the wall vis-a-vis Roy Barnes and jumping races. Baker holds Isakson to 50% of the vote, which is pretty middling for a Senator who is the most popular statewide politician that we tested (54/38 spread on his favorability). That might be a sign that no one in Washington is immune right now from at least some angry stares from the voting public.

It seems the Kos crown forgot that we have a candidate already (RJ hadley) who has announced & it why didn't they poll Hadley against isakson?

Let's say Thurmond did enter the senate race, those numbers would be much higher that 26%, likely around the low 40% range & Isakson wold be in the low to mid 40% range. As for Baker, probably in the high 30% range & Isakson in the mid to upper 40% range. Again this is just my opinion.

Does the Dailykos know something we don't know? Who knows, but it interesting.

Peanut Politics Web Poll Results

Straw Poll: Who would you prefer as the Democratic Candidate

DuBose Porter: 35%

Roy Barnes: 27%

David Poythress: 23%

Thurbert Baker: 10%

Carl Camon: 2%

Total Votes: 173 people voted


Which Ticket would you prefer for the Democrats (This was before Carl Porter entered the Lt. Governor's Race)

DuBose Porter-Michael Thurmond: 21%

David Poythress-Michael Thurmond: 20%

Roy Barnes-DuBose Porter: 19%

Roy Barnes-Michael Thurmond: 12%

Dubose Porter-Roy Barnes: 10%

DuBose Porter-Lisa Borders: 8%

Thurbert Baker-Tim Golden: 7%

Roy Barnes-Lisa Borders: 6%

Thurbert Baker-DuBose Porter: 5%

David Poythress-Carl Camon & Roy Barnes-Carl Camon: 4%

Daavid Poythress-Roy Barnes: 3%

Carl Camon-Lisa Borders & David Poythress-Lisa Borders: 1%

Carl Camon-Michael Thurmond: 0%

Total Votes: 202 people voted


Who would be the strongest candidate for Rural Georgia?

DuBose Porter: 42%

Roy Barnes: 25%

David Pythress: 20%

Thurbert Baker: 6%

Carl Camon: 4%

Total Votes: 168 People voted

Despite all of the talk & the polls, Du Bose Porter is strong here in Rural Georgia, which is his home base, followed closely by Roy Barnes & David Poythress. Porter's wife Carol entered the Lt. Governor's race last week, which kinda took some of the spotlight off Du Bose's campaign for a moment. But Porter strength lies here in rural Georgia, among conservative democrats & with his emphasis on faith & values, he will get his share of christian conservative voters as well. Porter is the wildcard in this race. No one knows how he, nor the other democrats fare against the GOP, because their names are not included in these polls. I'm curious though to see how well Porter does against the republicans in a head to head matchup. Porter may switch races before all said is done due to financial restraints due to being in the legislature, which prohibits him from raising money. So if does switch races, it maybe for Agriculture Commissioner, Labor Commissioner, (if Mike Thurmomd runs for higher office), or Secretary of State. Keep an eye on Porter.


Thurbert Baker though a sitting incumbent Attorney General has some serious work to here in Rural Georgia. Although these polls may not count as much, those numbers by Baker are atrocious for someone who is vying to win the democratic nomination. You rarely hear anything coming out of Baker's camp & with strong democrats like David Poythress, Roy Barnes, Du Bose Porter in this race Baker can't afford to run a lack luster campaign & it also seems to me that Baker is betting on the Black Vote to come to his rescue once voters head to the polls on July 20. The Black vote is not a guaranteed lock for Baker.

Porter, Barnes, Poythress all have strong support from the Black Community here in Georgia & with Carl Camon in the race, it will be split among all of the democratic candidates. Baker has no presence here in Rural Ga whatsoever, no ground support, no nothing. Either Baker needs to pick it up or he needs to get out of the race!

Carl Camon numbers are disappointing, despite rave reviews he got from the first democratic debate. As a result of that performance, he has seen a spike of supporters on his campaign facebook page. Recently Camon turned down an offer to a outside group of a $1 million dollars to drop from the governor's race and to run for Lt. Governor, so he's showing a committment to this race. I'm a huge Carl Camon fan, I've met him on numerous occassions already & his platform is by far the broadest among all of the democratic candidates. He's a new face on the block & I would love to see him on a general election ballot come Nov. 2010, whether its governor, or some other office. Democrats need some new blood & Carl Camon has it. Democrats need Carl Camon on a General Election Ballot.

Seems everyone has sort of forgot about Gen. David Poythress, as he continues to travel from corner to corner in this state. David's numbers dropped slightly from the first poll we did, but David has built up a strong grassroots organization all over Georgia. He has picked up endorsements from City Councilmen & women, County
Commissioners, Sheriffs, Mayors, NAACP County Chapters, etc. His pledge to not take a salary until Ga's unemployment rate is below 7% was a bold move & got alot of positive press. David has campaigned for more than a year now & his hardwork is starting to pay off. Keep your eye on the General.

Roy Barnes depending what poll you're looking at is trailing or leading the top republicans for the right to become Georgia's next Governor. Barnes has been keeping a relatively low profile as he treks across rural Georgia, holding small meetings, talking to sheriffs, school teachers, etc. He's the odds on favorite to win the nomination to go head to head with the GOP's nominee. Alot of support Barnes lost in 2002, seems to be coming back to him now in his attempt to regain the governor's mansion, which bolds well for him. The flag issue has subsided over time, so that will a non-issue among voters. He was in Taylor County a week ago talking to teachers, students & faculty & was warmly received by the 90-100 people in attendance in the Taylor Co. Cafeteria. This is a different Roy Barnes that the 2002 version I say. He's putting a huge emphasis on rural Georgia this time around & if successful, he'll be on his way back to the mansion. Stay Tuned

Barnes has early lead among dems: Cagle leads GOP FIELD.

from The Insider Advantage Georgia: (4/15/09) What’s in a name? Plenty, if the 2010 race for Georgia governor is still more than a year away. A new InsiderAdvantage poll shows that Republican Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle and former Democratic Gov. Roy Barnes easily lead the fields among candidates in their respective primaries.

Q: If the Republican primary for governor in 2010 were being held today, who would you vote for if the choices were:

Casey Cagle (28%)
John Oxendine (14%)
Karen Handle (6%)
Austin Scott (4%)
Sam Olens (2%)
Undecided/No opinion (46%)

The poll was conducted April 13 by InsiderAdvantage among 650 registered voters, for a margin of error of plus or minus 3.6%. Respondents were screened for whether they would vote in the Republican or Democratic primaries. All data have been weighted for age, race, gender and political affiliation.

Q: If you were voting in the Democratic primary, who would you vote for if the choices were:

Roy Barnes (35%)
Thurbert Baker (11%)
Dubose Porter (3%)
David Poythress (2%)
Undecided/No opinion (49%)

This question was conducted among 490 registered voters, for a margin of error of plus or minus 4%.

Among Republicans, Cagle’s stature as lieutenant governor clearly boosts him ahead of his nearest rival, Insurance Commissioner John Oxendine. All the more is Cagle boosted by whatever statewide publicity was generated by the recent regular session of the General Assembly.

One might doubt how prominent the legislature’s recent activities made Cagle, but the mystery is lifted somewhat when it’s considered that nearly half of the poll respondents have yet to decide. That means that despite Cagle’s statistical two-to-one lead, the race for the GOP nomination for governor is wide open as the bell rings to get it underway.

Karen Handel earns her 6% largely from the name ID she has in her native Fulton County and environs. Whether top-level support will boost her into serious contention remains to be seen.

On the Democratic side, Roy Barnes’ decision whether to run is the wheel that is turning the cart of the 2010 governor’s race. He has far more name ID than any Democrat or Republican running, and it shows in his numbers. Were he to run, he would be the clear favorite on the Democratic side. The only negative for him is that half of the respondents were unwilling to commit to him – or anyone – despite the knowledge of Barnes they have from his four years as governor.

Thurbert Baker’s chances would seem to hinge on cobbling together a coalition of black voters and those unhappy with Barnes. But black voters, like white and other ones, aren’t paying much attention to the race right now. If and when the time comes, Baker’s race will become more widely known among blacks, and his percentage of the vote would rise correspondingly. If Barnes does not run, Baker could dramatically become the favorite, thanks largely to the huge proportion of blacks that make up the Democratic electorate in this state.

The minimal early support shown for Dubose Porter and David Poythress say less about their qualifications than it does about the relative obscurity that lesser state officials operate under. If Barnes does not run, Porter and Poythress could probably be expected to split the white vote, potentially leaving Baker victorious in the primary.